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Ahrendere Offline

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DeviantART Username: Ahrendere

Link to Stat Confirmation: https://equusballator.com/community/show...p?tid=1770

Import Type: Rare

Is This a Design Transfer: Yes

If Yes, Link to Stash'd Design: https://sta.sh/0z66u2mg8sh

Select Ballator Type: Plains

Select Ballator Sex: Stallion

Ballator's Phenotype: Blue Roan Semi-Leopard Appaloosa (Jester Carrier)

Ballator's Genotype: Ee aa RR nJe nLp (PATN2 FrostRoan) (Jester Carrier)

Horn Information: Two small sets, two on each shoulder

# of Counted Traits: 10 Total (Roan +1, Semi-Leopard +1, Jester Carrier +1, Black Horns (+5?), Two Sets of Horns (+2?)

Special Instructions and/ or Visual Aids: If I've miscounted and have the ability to do so, It'd be awesome to add saber c:

Chosen Designer: Any Designer


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Hey there, before moving forward with this design I had a few questions/concerns
  • We are allowing all types to have a max trait of 18, so you will still have plenty of traits to get that saber and get something extra.
  • If wanting semi-leopard, you would need LpLp. Each Lp can only contain one. Would you like blanket appy or to go the semi-leopard route?
  • As is, the full white back legs can not happen due to either frost roan appaloosa or spotted blanket. You would need splash or sabino to have that high of white. To have a soft looking white, you would want sabino. 
  • Frost roan looks more like roan concentrated along the topline of the horse and won't create dark white patches. Here is an example of frost roan. https://www.deviantart.com/ballatordesig...-748569966
    I suggest going with a combo of varnish roan and spotted blanket. Here's a varnish roan that looks more like what you were going for for the roaning part: https://www.deviantart.com/ballatordesig...-822588767 and this https://www.deviantart.com/ballatordesig...-728992534
Basically, I think this design as is actually a Blue Roan Sabino Semi-Leopard Appaloosa (Jester Carrier), Ee aa RR nSb nJe nLp (PATN2Roan). 


Your point breakdown based on my above statement is:
Black - 0
Appaloosa - 1
Roan - 1
Sabino - 1
Jester - 1
Two Straight Hornsets - 2
Total: 6

This leaves you with 12 traits to add on things with. Let me know if you're okay with that slight change and if you would like to add on anything else!

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(04-20-2022, 10:11 PM)Bay-Blade Wrote: Hey there, before moving forward with this design I had a few questions/concerns
  • We are allowing all types to have a max trait of 18, so you will still have plenty of traits to get that saber and get something extra.
  • If wanting semi-leopard, you would need LpLp. Each Lp can only contain one. Would you like blanket appy or to go the semi-leopard route?
  • As is, the full white back legs can not happen due to either frost roan appaloosa or spotted blanket. You would need splash or sabino to have that high of white. To have a soft looking white, you would want sabino. 
  • Frost roan looks more like roan concentrated along the topline of the horse and won't create dark white patches. Here is an example of frost roan. https://www.deviantart.com/ballatordesig...-748569966
    I suggest going with a combo of varnish roan and spotted blanket. Here's a varnish roan that looks more like what you were going for for the roaning part: https://www.deviantart.com/ballatordesig...-822588767 and this https://www.deviantart.com/ballatordesig...-728992534
Basically, I think this design as is actually a Blue Roan Sabino Semi-Leopard Appaloosa (Jester Carrier), Ee aa RR nSb nJe nLp (PATN2Roan). 


Your point breakdown based on my above statement is:
Black - 0
Appaloosa - 1
Roan - 1
Sabino - 1
Jester - 1
Two Straight Hornsets - 2
Total: 6

This leaves you with 12 traits to add on things with. Let me know if you're okay with that slight change and if you would like to add on anything else!


Hello hello! I'm more than happy going with the Ee aa RR nSb nJe nLp (PATN2Roan), I've edited the sabino a little just to make it look more appropriate - and I've added Chrome and Saber to him as well ^^ So it'd be Ee aa RR nSb nJe nCrm nLp (PATN2Roan)?
Here's the link - https://sta.sh/02a5iqyw6iw9 - I hope his design works out alright!

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Okay! 

So I realized I did a typo in the last one of stating the geno. It actually would be counting the chrome: Ee aa RR nSb nJe LpLp (PATN2Roan).

Here is what I have so far: https://sta.sh/017eoyfkpslv

Onto the design, there were a few things I noticed as I was transferring that I wanted to discuss with you to make sure it was okay and allow you to request and changes. I haven't added the horns, saber, or made the headshot match the design. I will once I get confimation that everything is good to you!

I made a few tweaks to the chrome. Chrome has two parts to it: dark markings and light markings (shiny bits). The light markings can either come from top down or bottom up. Then the dark markings would come from the opposite direction. The way your chrome looked it seemed like it was coming from both directions. Looking where you had it most concentrated it seemed like top down would work. I didn't see any dark markings, so I added those in. Another part of chrome is areas called the dividing lines which is where the light markings must make a crisp line down the whole length. These areas are: head meeting the neck, the neck meeting the shoulder, the shoulder meeting the barrel, and the barrel meeting the back legs. So I just extended the light lines you had to cover the whole length.

I noticed on the shoulder mane that you had some lighter colored hair on it. Nothing currently could cause these grey hairs. If this guy had Dun, I believe it could cause guard hairs which would be that color. This would mean that he would need dorsal striping and leg barring(leg stripes). Otherwise if his horns were made that grey color that could be capillae striping.

Based on the white you gave me, that looks more like splash. Sabino has a much softer patchy look to it. If you're good with it being splash let's go with it.

I believe that was everything I tweaked/noticed. Let me know your thoughts and opinions! I want them to be perfect for you!

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Sounds brilliant then Big Grin 
The design looks fantastic! I'm happy going for splash instead of sabino, that was a mistake on my part ^^
The edits to the chrome are fine as well - I was planning for it to be quite minimal/subtle, but what you've done so far is absolutely fine Big Grin
The shoulder mane must've been left over from when I was considering adding capillae striping - but it's fine to not include that in the final design! 

Is it alright adding the feathers to him? I noticed that what you've sent so far doesn't have the extra feathering - nor the fullback mane, as far as I can see c:
Otherwise he's looking perfect!

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Okay!

This should be him: https://sta.sh/02czkcb9c48j

I lightened the chrome a touch to make it more minimal. Got all of the little things he was missing. And also added white in his mane where the splash touched and expressed the jester in that part. If you don't want that occuring I can just remove the splash that's touching his manes!

If you're happy with that I'll send him in to get his design reviewed and approved!

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He looks absolutely perfect, thank you so much ;;
I can't wait to see him submitted, I really appreciate you transferring his design ;;

And thank you for giving everyone else time to work on some last things as well, it's brilliant for the admin team to do so ^^

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This handsome man passed inspection! HERE is his BDA plaque

HERE is his PSD

Enjoy@!

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